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	<title>Comments on: Griefers: A Case Report</title>
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		<title>By: booboo</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-44564</link>
		<dc:creator>booboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Griefing is revenge.</description>
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		<title>By: 4n0nYm0uS</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-43417</link>
		<dc:creator>4n0nYm0uS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Griefing is for fun and optional in game. When you&#039;re bored, griefing is the only thing to do. If you&#039;re mad, griefing is still the option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Griefing is for fun and optional in game. When you&#8217;re bored, griefing is the only thing to do. If you&#8217;re mad, griefing is still the option.</p>
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		<title>By: boomercharged.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Left 4 Grief</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-12801</link>
		<dc:creator>boomercharged.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Left 4 Grief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been playing mostly Team Fortress 2 for the last year. And while the game has it&#8217;s share of morons, the community is pretty pleasant for the most part. Part of it comes down to the game itself. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been playing mostly Team Fortress 2 for the last year. And while the game has it&#8217;s share of morons, the community is pretty pleasant for the most part. Part of it comes down to the game itself. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shrake12</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10252</link>
		<dc:creator>Shrake12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(for John)

Simplified.

It is okay to grief sometimes. It feels good. It is not okay to grief all the time. That is bad. This is a very good post. (Thumbs up)

Previous post was meant to be insane, just as IdleHands ended up at the end of his &quot;Case Report&quot;

Now go in the corner, where the big words can&#039;t hurt you anymore. If you&#039;re lucky, you can feed the wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(for John)</p>
<p>Simplified.</p>
<p>It is okay to grief sometimes. It feels good. It is not okay to grief all the time. That is bad. This is a very good post. (Thumbs up)</p>
<p>Previous post was meant to be insane, just as IdleHands ended up at the end of his &#8220;Case Report&#8221;</p>
<p>Now go in the corner, where the big words can&#8217;t hurt you anymore. If you&#8217;re lucky, you can feed the wall.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10230</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the crap? Is anyone even sure what that dude is saying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the crap? Is anyone even sure what that dude is saying?</p>
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		<title>By: Bathroom Assassin (Shrake12 with mask)</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10196</link>
		<dc:creator>Bathroom Assassin (Shrake12 with mask)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gentlemen.

Had to join the lulzwagon. Sry. 

Idle, welcome to the farside of Team Fortress 2. Nay, welcome to the madlands: the place where zero can divide, where the Goggled Man is King, where we delve into a wonderful insanity where Gabe Newell&#039;s will be not done on TF2 as it is in Valve. Welcome, brother. It is not to be feared. See how far the rabbit hole goes.

Honestly, it&#039;s the same with any type of online video game. I myself am an avid player of Metal Gear Online and there is little difference between a glitch master Engineer and a shotgun wielding hard ass in fatigues. There is a need for greifers as much as there is a need for demons: someone to scare the n00bs about, something to blame all the crap on, and in your case, a taboo pleasure.

Don&#039;t all put the grief mask all at once though. They need &quot;regular&quot; players too grief off. When you&#039;re done reading this, remember to feed the wall. It&#039;s always hungry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen.</p>
<p>Had to join the lulzwagon. Sry. </p>
<p>Idle, welcome to the farside of Team Fortress 2. Nay, welcome to the madlands: the place where zero can divide, where the Goggled Man is King, where we delve into a wonderful insanity where Gabe Newell&#8217;s will be not done on TF2 as it is in Valve. Welcome, brother. It is not to be feared. See how far the rabbit hole goes.</p>
<p>Honestly, it&#8217;s the same with any type of online video game. I myself am an avid player of Metal Gear Online and there is little difference between a glitch master Engineer and a shotgun wielding hard ass in fatigues. There is a need for greifers as much as there is a need for demons: someone to scare the n00bs about, something to blame all the crap on, and in your case, a taboo pleasure.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t all put the grief mask all at once though. They need &#8220;regular&#8221; players too grief off. When you&#8217;re done reading this, remember to feed the wall. It&#8217;s always hungry.</p>
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		<title>By: minespatch</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10195</link>
		<dc:creator>minespatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He-he... Their playing the planet&#039;s &quot;Mars&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He-he&#8230; Their playing the planet&#8217;s &#8220;Mars&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: 5yewy5r</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10194</link>
		<dc:creator>5yewy5r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you grief? Because it&#039;s fun. There is no way around it. It is solely for &quot;t3h lulz.&quot; And no matter what you say to them, no matter how many times you drop the f-bomb load on them, they&#039;re not gonna stop. 

Y&#039;know, until the all-mighty B4n H4amm3r comes down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you grief? Because it&#8217;s fun. There is no way around it. It is solely for &#8220;t3h lulz.&#8221; And no matter what you say to them, no matter how many times you drop the f-bomb load on them, they&#8217;re not gonna stop. </p>
<p>Y&#8217;know, until the all-mighty B4n H4amm3r comes down.</p>
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		<title>By: BathrobeAssassin</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10190</link>
		<dc:creator>BathrobeAssassin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got griefed in my briefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got griefed in my briefs.</p>
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		<title>By: n00bie51</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10184</link>
		<dc:creator>n00bie51</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^</description>
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		<title>By: Spindrift</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10183</link>
		<dc:creator>Spindrift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I see it, the &quot;griefers help everybody keep the game in perspective&quot; argument is flawed. It assumes that the target of the griefing needs to have their perspective checked in the first place, but when your griefing targets everybody regardless of whether or not they take the game too seriously, its effectiveness is questionable.

Far better, I feel, to just be honest about the real reason most people grief- because they find it entertaining. Justifying it after the fact appears wholly dishonest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I see it, the &#8220;griefers help everybody keep the game in perspective&#8221; argument is flawed. It assumes that the target of the griefing needs to have their perspective checked in the first place, but when your griefing targets everybody regardless of whether or not they take the game too seriously, its effectiveness is questionable.</p>
<p>Far better, I feel, to just be honest about the real reason most people grief- because they find it entertaining. Justifying it after the fact appears wholly dishonest.</p>
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		<title>By: Ledundead</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10178</link>
		<dc:creator>Ledundead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That BathrobeAssassin is a Spy!
Spy&#039;s sappin&#039; mah sentry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That BathrobeAssassin is a Spy!<br />
Spy&#8217;s sappin&#8217; mah sentry!</p>
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		<title>By: BathrobeAssassin (half health)</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10177</link>
		<dc:creator>BathrobeAssassin (half health)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Medic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medic!</p>
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		<title>By: BathrobeAssassin</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10175</link>
		<dc:creator>BathrobeAssassin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the 4:35 A.M. BathrobeAssassin.

Where the hell did all these clones come from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the 4:35 A.M. BathrobeAssassin.</p>
<p>Where the hell did all these clones come from?</p>
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		<title>By: BathrobeAssassin</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10174</link>
		<dc:creator>BathrobeAssassin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was kicked from one of the EGO servers once for ubering a cunning Spy too many times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was kicked from one of the EGO servers once for ubering a cunning Spy too many times.</p>
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		<title>By: n00bie51</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10171</link>
		<dc:creator>n00bie51</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BathrobeAssassin, that&#039;s a horrible thing to do.  Don&#039;t you know?  This game is srs bsns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BathrobeAssassin, that&#8217;s a horrible thing to do.  Don&#8217;t you know?  This game is srs bsns.</p>
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		<title>By: BathrobeAssassin</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10170</link>
		<dc:creator>BathrobeAssassin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I find people who threaten physical violence and real-life retribution over online griefing far more annoying then the griefers themselves. And frankly, I enjoy the occasional griefing spree, as long as it&#039;s carried out by professionals who have a strategy, and not just, say, spamming a single sound. They&#039;re an important part of the online gaming community. They&#039;re the ones who remind us: This is not real life. Take it easy. Why so serious?.

So, thank you, Team Roomba, and all the other griefers out there. You are the ones who keep our communities in check, and weed out the ones who have gone too far into the game, to the point of being pathetically obsessed. You are the ones who lighten up a game with the occasional &quot;misplaced&quot; teleporter, bug-exploiting, or just-overall fooling around, to break up the eventual monotony of the game. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I find people who threaten physical violence and real-life retribution over online griefing far more annoying then the griefers themselves. And frankly, I enjoy the occasional griefing spree, as long as it&#8217;s carried out by professionals who have a strategy, and not just, say, spamming a single sound. They&#8217;re an important part of the online gaming community. They&#8217;re the ones who remind us: This is not real life. Take it easy. Why so serious?.</p>
<p>So, thank you, Team Roomba, and all the other griefers out there. You are the ones who keep our communities in check, and weed out the ones who have gone too far into the game, to the point of being pathetically obsessed. You are the ones who lighten up a game with the occasional &#8220;misplaced&#8221; teleporter, bug-exploiting, or just-overall fooling around, to break up the eventual monotony of the game. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: BathrobeAssassin</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10160</link>
		<dc:creator>BathrobeAssassin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an on the sly Griefer, I can say that I do it:

1. For the lulz.
2. To frustrate people who take a GAME too damn seriously.
3. To get rid of the same old, same old CP/CTF/PL match.

Really, the way you react to griefing shows more about your good nature and sense of humor than you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an on the sly Griefer, I can say that I do it:</p>
<p>1. For the lulz.<br />
2. To frustrate people who take a GAME too damn seriously.<br />
3. To get rid of the same old, same old CP/CTF/PL match.</p>
<p>Really, the way you react to griefing shows more about your good nature and sense of humor than you think.</p>
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		<title>By: Paper Shadow</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10158</link>
		<dc:creator>Paper Shadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EDIT: Ok, it&#039;s not possible to grief on this...

Good job coders...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EDIT: Ok, it&#8217;s not possible to grief on this&#8230;</p>
<p>Good job coders&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paper Shadow</title>
		<link>http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/10/01/griefers-a-case-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10157</link>
		<dc:creator>Paper Shadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s possible to grief on this post, by pressing enter a lot and creating empty lines...



I created three empty lines there, so if they work, think of the emotional pain caused 100 blank lines, causing people to scroll down the page...

Ok, I&#039;m not a griefer, but that video contains some AWSM statergies I may try out. I mean, trapping that soldier from escaping the ubercharge seems pretty smart...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s possible to grief on this post, by pressing enter a lot and creating empty lines&#8230;</p>
<p>I created three empty lines there, so if they work, think of the emotional pain caused 100 blank lines, causing people to scroll down the page&#8230;</p>
<p>Ok, I&#8217;m not a griefer, but that video contains some AWSM statergies I may try out. I mean, trapping that soldier from escaping the ubercharge seems pretty smart&#8230;</p>
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