For every way I dies before while being a medic, I went and did just that to all of the noob medics. At one point, I saw five medics in a group, all healing each other. As a pyro, I rushed them and burned them all. I normally enjoy kills based on skill, but the mindless slaughter was really fun. I also took advantage of all the medics by being a heavy getting multiple ubers.

Fortunately, it’s more back to normal in the states and I can play the medic like I used to play.

Just release more achievements and tell nobody.

I also liked to play medic since no one else did. Always stacked up points to make me seem 1337′er…

The only way to mitigate the problem would be to release a bunch of character upgrades at once, but that would be an unmanagable nightmare of balance and exploit-correction.

I’m glad to see serveres settled down in terms of Medics again, although that does mean a return to the horrors of things like I saw last night, somebody thinking “Hmm, we’re being steamrolled on goldrush - what this zero-medic team is more defensive scouts!”

So I’ve been able to play medic again, and enjoy the achievements as they’re meant to be - little “Oh, cool” moments as you get them. I’m also looking forward to seeing how kritzkrieg affects play strategies once Valve inevitably unlock all the weapons for all players.

Ah, the good old days when you lost consistently because there was never enough medics on your team even if you were playing medic.

Ah, the good old days when the reward of being the only medic was constantly being yelled at over how you messed up “their” ubercharge.

Ah, the good old days when everyone on your team was too cool to play medic and so any friendly medic had to be a spy and would be fired upon passionately.

ok - the last one I exagerrated a bit.

That insinuates to me that either most of the medic players are incompetant zombies, mindlessly smashing their heads against the keyboard, or that most players of TF2 either don’t know or don’t care about playing Medic, even with achievements and unlockables.

Either way, I don’t think those stats are really a viable way to look at things, because not everyone plays as Medic, unlockables or not. If later classes had achievements that were accomplished easier, I think the list would still appear the same, simply because not everyone cares about playing certain classes.

Which sort of reinforces what this is about, rewarding people that like playing their favourite class, for playing it *well*, with alternative ways to play them (of course the Medic achievements are far from perfect in this regard, but the idea in itself is a solid one that I support). Hopefully the Pyro (check the Steam Forums) achievements will be better managed in this regard.

Otherwise, where are all these servers with Medics galore? I only started playing again a few days ago, and most servers (GameArena, Internode, and Gamespace Goldrush ones) had only 2-3 Medics at most. I only encountered grinders once, but all the rest of us did was go spectator and chat to each other until they left.

Of course, I understand if you were talking about soon after the achievements were released (which I wasn’t around for), but now the game seems to be normal, but with extras, and people more willing to fill in the empty Medic gaps.

The fact is 99% of people have not gotten the ubersaw. Literally only 1% of people have Milestone 3 according to Valve: http://www.steampowered.com/status/tf2/achievements.php

That’s a hell of a lot of work that they’ve put into the game right there that only 1% of the players will ever get to enjoy.

I try to turn the microphone off, and it’s usually followed by me punching the keyboard and throwing something across the room. I feel better after that.

A lot of these grinders (I don’t care if you grind, just don’t do it in a real match) are down to their last few achievements. Unfortunately “First Do No Harm” seems to be a real popular outstanding one (be top of the score charts in a team of 6 or more, but you can’t kill anyone as a Medic). More than one ass has asked for preferential treatment in getting this one — nevermind it’s actually not too difficult an achievement to get, if you play the Medic as a primary healer (the assist points really rack up). You know, as originally *intended*.

But, yes. Medic is my main, I adore the class, but I can’t bear to play it when grinders are being so obnoxious.