Comments on: 16 Rockets Ought To be Enough For Anybody http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/ Tales of Team Fortress 2 pwnage and other hilarity Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:43:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Minzerta2010 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1517 Minzerta2010 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:30:54 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1517 God I hope that they do an update. They could probly do it without using the downloadable content scheme. At least for PS3 i think they could. When i bought Motorstorm there was an automatic update that i needed to install before i could play (it added vibration capabilites and some other stuff, not really sure). I think valve could probably do something like an update for everyone who owns the game. At least for the PS3. But then again, Gabe Newell finds the PS3 "useless". :( But then again, I don't think i'd be too happy with the nerfed rockets/grenades. In the first 1/3 of dustbowl i'd just shoot off a bunch of spam grenades into the air to scare off the other team. Ocassionally you get a kill doing this too. But still, with the updates we'd finally get Badlands, and people would stop using annoying map exploits in dustbowl (somehow engineers make it way above the map and can build whatever in the air. I ended up being traped behind a fence in the third part of the map.). God I hope that they do an update. They could probly do it without using the downloadable content scheme. At least for PS3 i think they could. When i bought Motorstorm there was an automatic update that i needed to install before i could play (it added vibration capabilites and some other stuff, not really sure). I think valve could probably do something like an update for everyone who owns the game. At least for the PS3. But then again, Gabe Newell finds the PS3 “useless”. :( But then again, I don’t think i’d be too happy with the nerfed rockets/grenades. In the first 1/3 of dustbowl i’d just shoot off a bunch of spam grenades into the air to scare off the other team. Ocassionally you get a kill doing this too. But still, with the updates we’d finally get Badlands, and people would stop using annoying map exploits in dustbowl (somehow engineers make it way above the map and can build whatever in the air. I ended up being traped behind a fence in the third part of the map.).

]]> By: madlep http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1447 madlep Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:11:42 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1447 @supremesonic - There have been a few news reports in the last few days where Valve have been talking about releasing new content for the console versions of TF2. I think they're wanting to do it for free, but Microsoft/Sony have got their crappy paid downloadable content schemes that are holding things up a bit with all the business issues. @supremesonic - There have been a few news reports in the last few days where Valve have been talking about releasing new content for the console versions of TF2. I think they’re wanting to do it for free, but Microsoft/Sony have got their crappy paid downloadable content schemes that are holding things up a bit with all the business issues.

]]> By: FILM: Team Fortress 2: Soldier 16 Rocket Nerf - Killing Spree | Onlinegamer - Team Fortress 2 på svenska http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1445 FILM: Team Fortress 2: Soldier 16 Rocket Nerf - Killing Spree | Onlinegamer - Team Fortress 2 på svenska Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:29:32 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1445 [...] Det räcker med 16 rockets… [...] [...] Det räcker med 16 rockets… [...]

]]> By: supremesonic http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1441 supremesonic Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:55:00 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1441 I'm curious to see if this'll happen on the 360/PS3, considering that when it comes to updates we're miles behind... Haven't heard news of Badlands yet, even though I'll give credit that lag doesn't occur as much now. The most popular classes there are Soldiers and Demoman, I think, so it'd be interesting to see how that changed. Oh, and there's also a high quota of really awful spies, but the less said about them the better... (TELEPORTERS!) I’m curious to see if this’ll happen on the 360/PS3, considering that when it comes to updates we’re miles behind… Haven’t heard news of Badlands yet, even though I’ll give credit that lag doesn’t occur as much now.

The most popular classes there are Soldiers and Demoman, I think, so it’d be interesting to see how that changed. Oh, and there’s also a high quota of really awful spies, but the less said about them the better… (TELEPORTERS!)

]]> By: madlep http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1438 madlep Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:24:14 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1438 I think one of the other differences between nerfs in TF2 and WoW, is that you spend 2 years grinding a WoW character to have phat raiding lewt and all that. Nerfing a class in WoW really hurts a lot more, cause you've got a lot of investment in your character that gets hurt by the nerf. With TF2, you don't have as much personal investment in any of the characters. Sure, you may have specialised in something that isn't as effective anymore, but there is a relatively low cost in switching to another specialty and playing that instead. For all rounders its even less of an issue. It just changes the tactical decision of which class to play in a given situation. I think one of the other differences between nerfs in TF2 and WoW, is that you spend 2 years grinding a WoW character to have phat raiding lewt and all that. Nerfing a class in WoW really hurts a lot more, cause you’ve got a lot of investment in your character that gets hurt by the nerf.

With TF2, you don’t have as much personal investment in any of the characters. Sure, you may have specialised in something that isn’t as effective anymore, but there is a relatively low cost in switching to another specialty and playing that instead.

For all rounders its even less of an issue. It just changes the tactical decision of which class to play in a given situation.

]]> By: UncleSpoon http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1437 UncleSpoon Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:18:22 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1437 Hairy: Oh I know some people no doubt whine, and official forums are always the absolute worst place to be as they attract the biggest tools and jackasses in the community, but I've seen almost no bitching outside of "Whine Central" AKA the official forums. Hairy: Oh I know some people no doubt whine, and official forums are always the absolute worst place to be as they attract the biggest tools and jackasses in the community, but I’ve seen almost no bitching outside of “Whine Central” AKA the official forums.

]]> By: messatsu http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1435 messatsu Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:55:50 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1435 Soldier had 36 extra rockets and 4 already in the clip. Not 32 extra. Soldier had 36 extra rockets and 4 already in the clip. Not 32 extra.

]]> By: madlep http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1433 madlep Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:14:41 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1433 I think that there hasn't been as much noise as would be expected because it really isn't *that* big of a change. Sure, it makes some parts of the game less spammy (getting out of spawn of dustbowl springs to mind), but it really doesn't change things drastically overall. Its really just a little inconvenient having to find ammo more often. But I really haven't noticed that much of a difference playing since the change. I think that there hasn’t been as much noise as would be expected because it really isn’t *that* big of a change.

Sure, it makes some parts of the game less spammy (getting out of spawn of dustbowl springs to mind), but it really doesn’t change things drastically overall.

Its really just a little inconvenient having to find ammo more often. But I really haven’t noticed that much of a difference playing since the change.

]]> By: Captain Hairy http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1432 Captain Hairy Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:10:12 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1432 @UncleSpoon You should have had a look at the official TF2 forums just after the patch. That was pretty bad. There's a lot of WoW players that also play TF2. @UncleSpoon

You should have had a look at the official TF2 forums just after the patch. That was pretty bad. There’s a lot of WoW players that also play TF2.

]]> By: UncleSpoon http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1431 UncleSpoon Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:52:36 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1431 I am really surprised at the LACK of bitching about this change. I mean I play WOW, and when any change is made, there's bloody uproar etc... (Whiny little maggots.) I am still amazed at the relative maturity of the TF2 community. Even if some cock did try and get me banned from a server the other day for "blocking him" from building a sentry gun. I was using his dispenser at the time and laying down a base of fire with the HWG. He was laughed off the server:) I am really surprised at the LACK of bitching about this change. I mean I play WOW, and when any change is made, there’s bloody uproar etc… (Whiny little maggots.)

I am still amazed at the relative maturity of the TF2 community. Even if some cock did try and get me banned from a server the other day for “blocking him” from building a sentry gun. I was using his dispenser at the time and laying down a base of fire with the HWG.

He was laughed off the server:)

]]> By: Cascade http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1405 Cascade Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:51:37 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1405 This doesn't really hurt attackers, who are going to either succeed or die before they spend those 20 rockets. It might limit defenders from spamming points, but that's a good thing. Defenders should work with engineers to set up a dispenser if that's what they have to do. I approve of the change. It makes dispensers more useful and tactical, rather than a dispenser just acting as a sentry healthpack. This doesn’t really hurt attackers, who are going to either succeed or die before they spend those 20 rockets. It might limit defenders from spamming points, but that’s a good thing. Defenders should work with engineers to set up a dispenser if that’s what they have to do.

I approve of the change. It makes dispensers more useful and tactical, rather than a dispenser just acting as a sentry healthpack.

]]> By: C.J. http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1399 C.J. Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:12:09 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1399 The soldier technically does get 20 rockets, since there are four already loaded into it and 16 in reserve. I think only the pyro and heavy should get spam-type fire anyway; the soldier and demoman should be more about precision and good placement. The soldier technically does get 20 rockets, since there are four already loaded into it and 16 in reserve. I think only the pyro and heavy should get spam-type fire anyway; the soldier and demoman should be more about precision and good placement.

]]> By: Neslock http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1398 Neslock Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:04:00 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1398 I'm very tempted to say this sucks, without having tried it out yet... But then again, I play soldier a lot and don't remember having to run for ammo very often. I seem to be replenished easily enough without having to worry about it. Cool picture of Bill with the old Tandy 100, by the way. I had one of those in 1986 and have been looking to pick one up on eBay lately. I’m very tempted to say this sucks, without having tried it out yet… But then again, I play soldier a lot and don’t remember having to run for ammo very often. I seem to be replenished easily enough without having to worry about it.

Cool picture of Bill with the old Tandy 100, by the way. I had one of those in 1986 and have been looking to pick one up on eBay lately.

]]> By: b4dboyz- http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1395 b4dboyz- Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:04:57 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1395 I've found myself not being killed by rocket spam as much recently. There is always one engie who has a dispenser up so I can restock ammo. My gameplay/strat hasn't really changed except for not clicking my mouse as much. Just have to make sure that I have enough ammo when a medic uses his uber on me. >.> I’ve found myself not being killed by rocket spam as much recently. There is always one engie who has a dispenser up so I can restock ammo. My gameplay/strat hasn’t really changed except for not clicking my mouse as much. Just have to make sure that I have enough ammo when a medic uses his uber on me. >.>

]]> By: madlep http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1394 madlep Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:55:02 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1394 @Phillip - yeah true with dispensers. But it still means that Soldiers are gonna take the ammo kits more often - which the engies REALLY need if everything gets taken out, and they need to rebuild. @Phillip - yeah true with dispensers. But it still means that Soldiers are gonna take the ammo kits more often - which the engies REALLY need if everything gets taken out, and they need to rebuild.

]]> By: Phillip Vector http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1393 Phillip Vector Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:17:12 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1393 Taking Ammo doesn't remove metal. :) So your point is moot on that front. Taking Ammo doesn’t remove metal. :) So your point is moot on that front.

]]> By: Elvis! http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1390 Elvis! Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:46:10 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1390 goldrush preview: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XjexTZgt-bM goldrush preview:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XjexTZgt-bM

]]> By: NightStriker http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1388 NightStriker Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:40:12 +0000 http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/03/04/16-rockets-ought-to-be-enough-for-anybody/#comment-1388 I've tried the soldier since the update, and he hasn't taken too much of a hit. Playing as a demoman though.... ugh. Even without spamming, I'm constantly running for ammo in Warpath. I’ve tried the soldier since the update, and he hasn’t taken too much of a hit. Playing as a demoman though…. ugh. Even without spamming, I’m constantly running for ammo in Warpath.

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