Comments on: How to stay alive longer than one minute

By: Xadavid

Xadavid — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:47:00 +0000

To this day, the Demoman and Spy—>Soldier picture still cracks me up.

By: Grim

Grim — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:26:50 +0000

Okay, I got carried away

Sorry.

By: Grim

Grim — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:26:09 +0000

You are totally wrong about the soldier. As a CAL/CEVO scrimmer, I fidn the demoman much easier to play well than the soldier. The soldier isn’t a spam class at all if you want to play one well.

/endrant bitch

By: W+m1/2

W+m1/2 — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:09:41 +0000

It would seem Valve DID do something to help pyros take on soldiers.

By: Toby

Toby — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:16:14 +0000

I’ll often, if i’ve just joined a server, just rush to their point and die from sentry fire.
Only do this once, just so i can learn for myself where their sentrys are positioned and learn their general layout.

By: jrhather

jrhather — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:20:56 +0000

First thing I rocked was scout.

Funny thing is I went from the top of the boards to the bottom….I suck at scout now but can lob pipes with uncanny accuracy and can gib with crockets with the best of ‘em.

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:00:31 +0000

Haha, glad to know spies are considered pro. Love that class. Good info. Hopefully some people will pay attention to it.

By: Ski failure

Ski failure — Thu, 07 May 2009 06:34:29 +0000

I started with the Spy, Demoman, Scout and Medic.

I think I went backwards.

And if it is no surprise, I suck. But I blame my 10 FPS on that every time. Gets a lot more mutes than responses… Good thing.

By: A guy who read the WHOLE thing

A guy who read the WHOLE thing — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:30:06 +0000

The Demoman has a learning curve, sure. But a demoman at the bottom of his learning curve is still a force to be reckoned with. I would go as far as reccomending the demo to noobs as well. They can either camp a corner with stickies, or mindlessly carpet a control point with grenades (or stickies). Pow, instant 3:1 kdr, some guy on your team caps the point you are spamming, credit to team and everything.

By: Hissanrach

Hissanrach — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:03:06 +0000

I feel a little bit annoyed at how much you criticize the soldier. I’m a pretty decent player, and I don’t rely on “crits and spam” to kill people. Sure, it’s a good class to play when you’re learning, but soldiers are very helpful in nearly every situation. You shouldn’t discredit a class all because it’s easier to learn. Maybe beginners are always playing Demo or Spy not just because pros do it, but also because you openly say that they are the best, and you just need someone to jump in front of a minigun for you.

By: nicksdrago0

nicksdrago0 — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:00:51 +0000

i found it quite interesting, as i picked up the spy quite well on my first try, but only the fact that ive seen my friends play and seen them get backstabbed ocassionally, so i knew what to do as a spy, where and when to cloak, who to disguise as, even escape routes. while my friend who got the game and played the spy for the same time as me watching and playing the spy took a lot longer.

By: General Goose

General Goose — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:06:05 +0000

So true.

An extra piece of advice for the take it slow section: taunting to check round corners may be effective in certain situations, particularly if you are a disguised spy.

By: Anon

Anon — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 02:57:56 +0000

You are very correct, but I found that I just had to bear the humilation of being last on the server at the end of a round and get maybe one or two backstabs, before I could improve as a spy. I started off as a spam pyro and slowing tried medic and spy which are some of my favourite classes.This was helped incredibly by OMFGNinja’s Spy Tutorials, but meh I’m good now.

By: dumderdumdderpidumdumderrr

dumderdumdderpidumdumderrr — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:20:37 +0000

wee!

By: derhimmelstoss

derhimmelstoss — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:40:56 +0000

I play demoman, spy, and engie a lot. Even though the playstyles are way different for all 3 classes, one pleasure is common to all of them: killing n00b spies in embarassing ways. (= melee weapon kills)

By: rust

rust — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:25:07 +0000

Good advice, and I’m going to take it. I’ll admit that I’m a new player, no shame in that. I’ve tried out most of the classes, and I really like the Demoman, but I’ll switch to Soldier for a bit until I start to learn the maps. That way I can learn and still help out a little.

By: Toast_recon

Toast_recon — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 05:15:49 +0000

Hmmm. That’s odd. That was the exact opposite of my experience.

I thought that the soldier was actually a rather a hard class, and spent most of my time. Sure, I sucked ass for the first 4 hours, but I owned for the next 20.

Now, I am so freaking bored with the spy I don’t play it anymore. I am all demo, baby. I still own at the spy, but play it rarely.

Pyros are also a good starter class. Scouts are about medium, I think.

By: Taco Grande

Taco Grande — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 05:09:21 +0000

wtf is with the thing about the pyro, one of the classes ill mainly play as is pyro and i’ve neva felt crappy compared to a soldier, and ive neva heard of someone saying that pyros are crap when up against someone like a soldier.
Trust me its easy as hell to beat a soldier since he’s only able to shoot rockets with a slow firing rate, so its hell easy to dodge his shit until u get up close and personal, then when u are, dont get too close coz if he gets u, u’ll probably instantly die (even though u might kill him aswell if ur really close) so just run around in a random manor when ur near him, but always keep ur eye on him and keep flaming him till hes dead, and even then, if u die before u kill him, theres a good chance he’ll die anyway from being on fire.
And sometimes its just fun to run around and try and flame as many people as possible (if ur on a insta spawn server)

By: HadronCollider

HadronCollider — Wed, 21 May 2008 21:39:44 +0000

Love your article…
Lots of fun mixed with TF2 basics.

Though I think you’ve not given enough thought about the snipers out there. As I myself have got stuck in the snipers way of pwning the fields I know what a good sniper can add to the team, especially on CP-maps. With the right reflexes and non-dumbass mind you will find that snipers alone can hold a point against the enemy team.

As I see it only spies can beat a good sniper, and ofc the übers.

Well, this did not turn out to be what I first thought it to and by now I’ve forgotten what I was really going to say…

Sorries, got lost in my sniper-glorification.
I just happen to love that small green typing that slowly rises over a dead enemys head after a successful shot.

By: Notger

Notger — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:01:12 +0000

Great article and I wished I read it earlier so I would have saved me the hassle to learn this by myself.

Being now a nearly full-time-Demo-player, I say to you folks, that despise newbies: You suck. You suck so much there are no words for it.

There is absolutely no excuse for flaming someone who is trying to learn.